Learn more. Ask Question. Asked 1 year, 9 months ago. Active 1 year, 8 months ago. Viewed 2k times. I want to know the explanation for the Peter Jackson movies, not the book. I have even more information. His quote is: " We went to reclaim Moria, but our enemy had gotten there first. Moria had been taken by legions of Orcs. He began by beheading the King Thror. So why is he sworn to wipe them out? Improve this question. RexxiA RexxiA 4 4 silver badges 22 22 bronze badges.
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Add a comment. Active Oldest Votes. I think that's it! If anyone has a better explanation, I would love to hear it! He was obviously irritated by the joke about the orcs, and the fact that orcs seemed to annoy him. She was about to ask one of the older dwarves when Balin walks over. But our enemy had got their first.
It was the place where mithril was mined and traded with the elves. He began by beheading the king. Thrain, Thorin's father, was driven mad by grief. He went missing, taken prisoner or killed, we did not know. She also could sense hurt coming from Thorin, who's back was turned to them. Defeat and death was upon us. That is when I saw him. He stood alone against this terrible foe. His armour rent, wielding nothing but an oaken branch as a shield.
Thorin then grabbed the nearest sword after Azog failed to hit him with his mace, and slice off his arm. Our forces rallied and drove the orcs back! And our enemy was defeated. But there was no feast nor song that night, for our dead was beyond the count of grief. We few had survived. Why the need to seek out and kill every last member of Durin's house? If they simply want to live in underground places of dwarves, just drive them out and be done with it.
As to why Thorin thinks Azog is dead? Surely a severed arm is no proof of death? Thorin seems convinced he is dead. For apparently no reason. Contact axordil. Quote 0 login to like this post Post by axordil » Sat May 31, am I attributed Azog's vendetta to the War of the Dwarves and Orcs--arguably the two races with the longest memories for such--and didn't dwell on it. It seems like an odd thing to be concerned about to me.
But to each his or her own. Quote 0 login to like this post Post by Passdagas the Brown » Sat May 31, am Smaug's voice wrote: Actually that is what I meant in my question. Orc-occupied Moria, as far as I am aware, was not home to a state of the art hospital However, I grant you that Azog's initial reasons for wanting to wipe out the line of Durin is hazy.
It's June. We want news! Thorin, Dwalin, Fili, and Kili go after Azog in Ravenhill on mountain goats but, when they reach there, Azog snatches Fili and impales the Dwarf through the torso with his blade arm.
An enraged Thorin then pursues the orc, but Azog takes him by surprise and, screaming furiously, duels Thorin with his amputated blade-arm and mace against Thorin's sword. During a climactic fight between the dwarf and the Pale Orc, Thorin recovers quickly and gets the upper hand by throwing the orc down a hill.
Azog sends orc soldiers to kill Thorin, but Thorin overpowers them. He then returns, now armed with a large flail and his blade arm. Meanwhile, the eagles, led by Radagast and accompanied by Beorn, arrive and swoop down on the arriving orc force, destroying it completely. The Eagles then swoop down on the bats and kill them.
As the duel progresses, Thorin throws Azog's own flail in his arms, causing the shattered ice to capsize beneath the orc's feet, seemingly drowning the Defiler.
As Azog's body drifts away, Thorin follows it and falls for the orc's trap. Using his arm blade, Azog stabs Thorin's foot and breaks through the ice, stabbing Thorin in the abdomen. However, Thorin, while being pinned down, stabs the Defiler in the heart with Orcrist. He then flips him over and impales him again, but this time pushes Orcrist even deeper into the Defiler's torso, forcing Orcrist to penetrate straight through the icy surface, pinning Azog to the ice. A few seconds later the Defiler dies, while looking into the eyes of his greatest foe.
Azog is depicted in the films as a huge, fearsome-looking and herculean orc, the most developed example of the orc species in all of Middle-earth. Unlike any other orcs seen in Peter Jackson's films, Azog and his band speak using the Orkish language rather than in English, refuses to speak in Common Speech , even for people who do not know Orkish.
Azog is also a very large and extremely powerful orc, as tall if not taller than even the most advanced Uruk-hai , and far more bulky. His skin is bone-white, compared to other orcs whose skin color generally ranges from sickly green to a dark brown or lighter peachy colours.
Further differentiating Azog from other orcs are his piercing blue eyes and smoother skin, with deep, tattoo-like incisions covering his face and torso. He also looks arguably less barbaric than other orcs , save for the wicked-looking metal claw replacing his severed forearm; the aft end of the prosthetic ends in a spike protruding near his elbow, heavily suggesting that the limb was crudely implanted by driving the spike through Azog's arm stump.
The fact that Azog can sustain this prosthesis is an example of his immense ambitions to survive. Azog's body is a collage of battle-scars and combat-tattoos, and is possibly designed to intimidate his enemies on the battlefield. When riding a warg, he is forced into a combative stoop because of his detached arm.
However, he still manages to fight quite savagely. In the Battle of the Five Armies, Azog wore a chestplate and replaced his usual prosthetic arm with a double blade attached at the elbow. During his final battle with Thorin, he also abandoned his usual mace in favour of what appeared to be a large brick on a chain, perhaps salvaged from the decrepit towers of Ravenhill.
He wielded this impromptu weapon much like a flail. Azog is depicted in the Hobbit film trilogy as the wrathful, psychopathic, iron-fisted, malevolent, bloodthirsty, insidious, cynical, bitter, malicious, arrogant and merciless chieftain of the orcs of Moria, and leader of the warg riders.
He is portrayed to be cunning, monomaniacal and ruthless beyond the usual orcish hostility, with a bitter and hateful obsession for vengeance against Thorin Oakenshield for cutting off his arm in battle. Azog is an orc patriot, and adores the traditions of the Orcs. He even feels disgust for Common Speech , since although he understands it he never uses it, even speaking to those who do not speak Orkish.
Although he doesn't seem to be hate of Black Speech , since I speak to Sauron in that language. Azog was also shown to have some fascist qualities, judging by his complete intolerance towards failure and his dictatorship over his orc pack. The one most surprising thing about Azog is even someone as powerful as Azog has a master, the incredibly powerful Necromancer: Sauron.
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